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Author Topic: FYI Hank Hayes?  (Read 1043 times)

410indashade

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FYI Hank Hayes?
« on: January 06, 2007, 11:21:41 PM »

Mr. Hayes and his organization No Lie Blades sent me an e-mail advert claiming that," No Lie Blades Scores 97% on the United States Gov. Performance Evaluations!!!" and "If it were up to me, NLB training would be mandatory for all Law Enforcement professionals."
DETAC Patrick Dolly, Delaware River Port Authority Transit Unit

Back when I tried my hand at teaching self-defense I bought one of his training blades and used it in several of my classes.  The much advertised and sought after psychological benefits were not forthcoming.  Anyone on this forum familiar with and/or tried his product? 
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Re: FYI Hank Hayes?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 08:00:05 AM »

...says DETAC Patrick Dolly, Delaware River Port Authority Transit Unit

Hmmm, I wonder what the EIGTH Chalie Piston, OshKosh Swamp Barrier Transportation Control...has to say about it?

WHAT a credential! You know if DETAC Dolly likes it, It must be great.
And I have to tell you, I am not dumb about dealing with some government things and the

                                                        "U.S. Government Performance Evaluations"

Ahhh, what is that exactly? Done by whom? Where? And how dumb are the people setting up the test and taking them?

But, I think we talked about marking knives somewere else here. This "No Lie" knife and these knives that have chalk or some such marker on the blade...one of the uses lipstick! ...So ALL your students and the surrounding area you work out in (lipstick on floors and walls?), must be:

a) prepared to workout with worthless clothes all the time.
b) turn the knife training sessions into an over emphasis on dueling.
c) consider your students all immature liars because they refuse/fail to admit they got
    touched by the knife in practice.
d) slashing shows up way more than the stab.
f) after a long work out, where's the newest slash? This is why we have to cover the holes in
   paper targets.

Might be fun in some special occasions like a knife tounament with spectators, but I have never liked marking knives for regular training.

(Try using marking stuff with uniformed officers showing up for training. Yeah, get some lipstick on their polyester) The marker knives are just an gimmick option you'll wind up keeping in a box or bag most of the time.

Sincerely,
Hock
RTSWH, The Lesser Antilly Lowlands, South Ogre Bridge Control Team

« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 11:58:38 AM by Hock »
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Nick Hughes

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Re: FYI Hank Hayes?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 12:43:59 PM »

As the founding member of the Piedmont district Cape Fear Southern Baptist amateur River Wideners Club I must say we were never invited to participate in these evaluations...therefore I would take them with a grain of salt.

On a more serious note all you need is one of those old $1 rubber knives and a 50 cent tube of lipstick.  Guys wear shorts and you can set up something akin to a "killshot" tournament with variations such as one guy has a knife, one doesn't, both are armed, one knife in the middle of the room and the guys start at each end and run for it and so on.  It opens the eyes of a lot of "mall ninjas" when they see all the "blood" on them but as Hock said, you don't need to do it on a daily basis.

Nick
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Re: FYI Hank Hayes?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 05:23:23 PM »

I've also fought with felt tipped markers, not as realistic but a decent gauge.  Of course the kung fu guy teaching would automatically say you were dead if it was in the throat or inside leg.  I wouls always ahve to fight the urge not to say  - 'Maybe... maybe not...' :P
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Re: FYI Hank Hayes?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2007, 09:23:06 PM »

Interesting to re-read...

Hock