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[FB59]

Siddle has two new companies, One the resurrection of the old Detonics gun company, 4 times failed, but is is a neat little gun, and Warrior Science corporation which is the new name for the old PPCT thing. He claims to be inventing a gun called a "weapons Platform."

The gun is being built by Dan Kenney of Kenney Technologies in kent Washington and Siddle's partner in Detonics(actually double nickel llc) is A Dr steven stahle.
Siddle did not give up the name PPCT. It was since 2002 or so the property of Homeland Security Corporation, founded, not by Siddle, but by an ex Army Ranger and West Point Grad class of 66, Doctor R. Crants.

Siddle has claimed he "merged" PPCT into HSC.  HSC BOUGHT PPCT. Siddle then with a group of Atlanta Investors bought Crants out in Nov 2006. The investors and Siddle(along with his family members employed) parted ways in Nov 2007. Allegedly, Things did not go as planned and promised by Siddle and he was replaced as President and CEO of HSC-PPCT (although his wife Sandy may have been PPCT President), by Joe Johnson the famous African American democrat from new Mexico.

Siddle has an agreement with the Investors for an alleged 395K in the separation agreement. In return he got all the bills owed by the PPCT Products situation but HSC kept the name and the fancy winged sword logo. HSC kept all the big money contracts.

Siddle and Family allegedly took a MAJOR paycheck hit when they "left" HSC-PPCT.

Siddle is allegedly planning to rebrand all the PPCT instructors as Warrior Science Instructors, Dave Grossman is allegedly a partner in this new warrior science company.
(that now seems to have a nose dive too - 2011)

HSC with Crants at the helm won the TSA and Iraq Civpol contracts. Crants brought Siddle into the deals by purchasing PPCT. Siddle cannot handle criticism or anyone questioning his views or his work. It really gets to him very badly from my personal experience with him. He has the EGO of an NBA player to say the very least, in my opinion and experience with him.

[noload]

The Warrior Science web site is up and running. A Grossman, Siddle and Stahle company. Even has a poetry corner.

http://www.warriorsciencegroup.com/

[Hock]

Here is a sample of the common consensus of the old heart rate studies. this from Kathleen Vonk, police officer with a modern B.S. in exercise science who works with Louka Tractical Training, writing in a winter, 2008 police journal - Police performance Under Stress.


    "Since heart rate is one of many factors that can indicate stress levels in most people, Siddle took this a step further and attempted to put actual heart rate values on the Inverted-U. An "Optimal Performance Zone" was created with a range of 115 to 145 beats per minute (bpm). This zone was based on the onset of physical skill loss / improvement at specific heart rates.
    The studies Siddle used to incorporate heart rate into a generalized optimal performance zone, however, involved physical exertion rather than psychological and/or emotional stress. There may not have been at the time, but now there is a well-established difference between heart rate elevation due to physical exertion and heart rate elevation due to stress. It would be difficult, at best, to generalize one to the other.  Although the Inverted-U Theory is well-known within the police training arena, many essential components have unfortunately been omitted or forgotten over the years.
     For example, even in basic psychology text books, both task complexity characteristics and personality characteristics are mentioned as affecting one's performance, relating these characteristics to an individualized Inverted-V. Rarely, if ever, are these mitigating factors even mentioned in defensive tactics programs.
    Some general observations could be made based on the empirical heart rate data collected. There was no specific heart rate range for “optimal performance” that could be generalized to everyone. Some cadets and most officers did not lose fine and complex motor skills at elevated stress levels as indicated by heart rate. Very few (but some) lost most skills during low stress incidents. This could be because of any number of things such as a lack of police experience, a lack of maturity, a new task versus trained task, high trait anxiety, and/or high state anxiety."


More on the inverted "U" see http://www.mindtools.com/stress/UnderstandStress/StressPerformance.htm
People still quoting these old studies, need to open up some new books.

Hock

[whitewolf]

Lots of reading there-interesting but ill have to go over it again-WW (ELB)

[Canuk]

And it shouldn’t stop from re surfacing, his training has dumbed people down to the point that they are getting hurt, cause apparently only the good guys can fall victim to the ogres and bugbears of elevated heart rate and adrenaline  overload. Somehow all the bad guys are not affected by these recurring demons, must be reading different books I guess. Self fulfilling prophecy I think, we were told it was true from the folks that were supposed to know what was best.

[JimH]

As long as the Heart Rate,Adrenaline and the Bodies ability to Function,or NOT, under both is lumped in to this Rote Recital of information it will continue to be used as EXPERT Information,which it is NOT.

I purchased some DVD's at a recent Martial arts get together.
I noticed on several that they still speak of the Heart Rate and expected loss of function as the Heart rate Increases and Adrenaline dump increases.
They speak of the need to learn to be able to fight and simultaneously focus on Breathing technique,making slow deliberate breaths to destress and keep the heart rate down so we can function.

I also noticed on some the dialogue on HICKS law and the need to empty the tool box and only learn and train in a few techniques that serve multiple purposes in an encounter.
As we need not have too much for the brain to try to go through in a Real encounter as every micro second counts to survive.

These DVDs were made/produced in the last year.

It all sounds good and scientific until your step back and think about it all on your own.

As a side note:

There is a youtube clip of Bruce on Fox News after the SEALS shot and killed the Somali Pirates.
Bruce is listed as a Special Operations Expert ?
How does one get awarded those titles ?

[grlaun]

yes, it was like our PPCT baton recert yesterday...BORING!   Nerve motorpoint overload & blah blah blah....try that on an aggressive person!  Its BS.  The baton is listed as an intermediate weapon in the "Force Continuum" but our Training Officer said he's trying to do away with the concept... makes you wonder.  We want to use a 1+1 theory - one step higher on the response chain than what the suspect uses. I think its matter of common sense, but what do I know?

[Canuk]

Actually the 1 plus 1 theory is BS, you will be taking a GIANT leap back if you do that and I predict, lose in civil court time and time again.

The theory purports that you use equal force plus one, this means that what, that you would have to measure the amount of force? PSI the bad guy used against you and go one step higher. So is he hit you using 55 psi with a punch, your plus 1 theory would mean that you could onlt hit him with 56 psi? its a bad business and a litagation lawyers wet dream!

I think up here Alberta has done away or will do away with the its force model, instead officers will rely on articulation of the event (which is what everyone should be doing anyway) The key point is to articulate the subject's behavior and actions, then you articulate why you used a certain force response.

[redcap]

That is how we do it, I believe. The onus is on you to demonstrate the force used was reasonable and the minimum amount required in the circumstances of that particular situation. Going fist-v-spray, club-v-baton, knife -v-gun etc is too complicated. Most coppers know what is reasonable at the time, proving it to a lawyer who hasn't been in a fight since elementary school six months later in a quiet court room is the tricky bit.
Redcap

[Canuk]

Add to which some police servicces like to burn thier own

[grlaun]

yeah...but what cha gonna do?  Dept's always have a way out - feed you to the beasts...