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[Hock]

Some of the people here actually knew Cestari, knew Damian Ross and still speak to Cestari's other students. Its a great place to ask such a question. Hardly Bullshido. I think the answers here have been supportive. 

"BTW, did the guys in Houston tell you what DVD it was? From Carl or Damian? OR did you just not bother to ask since it fit your agenda". - Mike T. Damian

Of course they said is was Damian Ross. I couldn't believe Ross or anyone would do that. They insisted. Did you read the word "insisted?" Did you not read that part? Or was that not in YOUR agenda?

The question remains has anyone out there, seen anyone doing this type of disarm? So far. No. (Looking at our back office stats, we know it takes about a month and a half for a good, over-all showing of a topic by most readers.)

Hock

(Mick, it is a VERY serious thing to put up a free, u-tube clip, as you state. The smarter you are, the harder it is to put something up because you have make such a very, serious selection. No matter what you do its always somewhat "out of context" to some degree and must be CAREFULLY selected. I myself, still, after all these years, have none up. This is actually a good topic to start in the business section.)

[Hock]

“Mike T Damian,” we talked earlier here about why system heads often do not get on other talk forums, when we wondered why Mr. Damian Ross, himself a member here, hadn’t the balls to just come on here and face some of the detracting remarks others made about him. And also, just say “Heard the disarm question. No Hock, that disarm sucks. I never did it.” He is - after all - a registered member here. 

There are a few other reasons for systems heads not to post directly. One of the other things some systems heads do on other talk forums is to create several, email characters and carry on entire conversations with themselves in order to secretly promote and sell their programs. A certain, semi-famous guy in Canada was caught doing that years back. 

Then Mr. “Mike T Damian,” another snaky, sneaky ploy is for the system head to get on a forum and play-pretend he is someone else – usually a happy, happy customer, feigning the old - 

       “aw shucks, I’m brand new to this dang talk forum thing, but I sure do like
        the Joe Bones, self defense course. It’s just the best…”


Oh, kind of like what you said earlier,

                  "I'm not real savvy at this forum stuff. - Mike T Damian

All the while, in the process, these skunk fucks hide behind a false name, get their own webpage listed in the thread for free in a new market of people.  Then, these unethical scoundrels get their own talk forum listed for free. Subversive, huh? I mean who pretends to be someone else? What kind of person does that? A shady, skunk, that’s who.

And, as said by you here, these conspiring, charlatons also get to suggest that:

                                   “the internet cannot be trusted,”

- alluding to readers that any questions or challenges about their questionable past really cannot be trusted - that they are really worthless questions because “you just can’t trust things on the net!”
 
Months ago Damian Ross himself, of the fledgling Self Defense_____  signed up here on the forum. Never posted. But, this automatically registered a very specific IP address and trail in his own name.

Last week you – “MikeT” with a further, deep file name of “Mike T Damian” signed on. (Such a coincidence for a fan. Fate, I guess?  Huh?)  Such an “aw-shucks” happy fan of Damian Ross, but with the exact same IP home address as Ross.
 
Every digit a complete match.
The server a complete match.
City, state a complete match.
Are you living with Damian Ross?
Are you his granddaddy?
Are you his daddy?
Are you his son?
Are you a cat burglar sneaking onto his computer in the evenings?
Or, are you just a deceiving, subversive, unethical, conniving, lying, skunk-fuck?
What?

Digging deeper…just as you suggested,
Hock

[Mick Coup]

Now that's funny!

Fucking amateur...

Mick

[whitewolf]

Hock-this must be your detective background popping up-

wild........

WW (ELB)

[Canuk]

That was FUKING FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Milldog1776]

LOL!

[Dawg]

Digging deeper…just as you suggested,
Hock

I guess this proves you ought to be careful what you ask for...you just might get it!

That was so sweet! ROFLMAO!

[JimH]

I thought that it was funny that in his first post Mike said that he  "trained with Mr Ross" and then went on to explain how the monthly video series is so GREAT and teaches you how to survive on the street.

Not many people call watching videos training with the person instructing on the video,lol.

Nice catch Hock.

Anyone interested in buying Carl Cestari DVD series can buy them on EBAY from Carl's Wife and get the TRUE product and support Carl's wife rather than support Mr Ross the RIP OFF Artist.
( It is also a lot less than Mr Ross monthly clips)

[Samuel Browning]

I have to laugh when Damian Ross bad mouths Bullshido.net.  Back in 2007 he made a couple of posts on our forum.  See post #90

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56300&page=9

And then disappeared when I and Andy Vallencourt (posts #91 and #92) started asking him serous questions about his relationship with Chris Pizzo and whether he actually was Cestari's Top Student as Damian had once told Blackbelt Magazine.

Here are my questions which Mike T can now answer:

On the Accelerated Battlefield Combatives Tape the presenter says: "How we're able to teach them what they felt were ruthless skills in an unreasonably short period of time. We know that Washington is controlled by lobbyists in the media. We were brought before a congressional hearing and shut down."

He similarly said "this information was buried for the last 10 years, thanks to the liberal press ands their moniker of the murder by numbers system . . ."

1) Specifically which congressional committee did Chris Pizzo or you appear before? And on what date? (day month, and year) You see I really want to obtain a transcript of this hearing to read it for myself.

2) Specifically which newspapers called the system "murder by numbers"? Please provide me with the publication name, and the article's author, title of the article, and date of publication.

3) In a previous article for Black Belt Magazine you are described as being Carl Cestari's "top student". Is this an accurate claim?

please provide evidence that you were indeed Carl's top student. For example a letter by him making this statement, or a witness or two, other then Chris Pizzo who would support this statement.

4) Between what dates did you train with Carl, and approximately how many hours of training did you put in with him?

5) If you and Mr. Pizzo are undergoing litigation please refer me to the court in which the suit has been filed and its docket number. That is the easiest way to confirm that a suit has been filed. Legally when lawyers use the phrase that something is "in litigation" it generally means that a lawsuit has been filed.

6) I have never been in the military, Please tell me if you have been, and whether you ever taught hand to hand combat while serving.

7) Was Chris Pizzo, ever special forces qualified?

[Update]  Nobel learning systems put out Accelerated Battlefield Combatives in 2005 (the date of its copyright)  So for Damian to claim he had no responsibility for Product produced by Commando Chris before their break is disingenious.  (Everything Chris put out after November 2007 he of course would not have control over)  To see what crap ABC was please see the review below.

http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,4946.0.html

[Hock]

And I had to erase the Damian Ross webpage and the Damian Ross talk forum from inside the MikeT / Damian Ross - alter ego - posts.

I got an email from England last night that there are similar "Ross-fan" posts in UK talk forums, where Damian Ross is described as a "knowledgable caring, nuturing, and wonderful instructor" - or metrosexual words to that effect anyway. And the posts are suspect now as being Damian's..."Clark Kent" speaking.  (sounds a bit like Pizzo being "loved by millions?")

If some people really complimented Damian Ross? Ross really screwed it up by proving he will plant himself in forum disguises and compliment himself, thereby making all compliments and endorsements of Ross....now suspect.

I think JimH had a great idea and people should support the Cestari family and buy the original Cestari DVDs on the wife's site on Ebay. 

Hock

[Hock]

Discussion on the highly touted chin jab...
http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,4969.msg44620.html#msg44620

Hock