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[Hock]

Just for the readers here...there are a number of military veteran webpages, and talk forums, that are barely known or frequented by "normal" people and all kinds of issues are discussed. One consistant topic is fake soldiers and fake POWs. 

Martial artists and cops don't really know about this fake thing and find it boring or strange, or whatever.  They don't have a dog in the hunt, so to speak and ask, "who cares" But in their own worlds, a fake cop gets arrested and a fake martial artist with the wrong dotted "i" or mis-crossed  "t"  on a diploma is an international MA scandal. When Darren Levine of Krav doesn't have two Israeli signatures on his certificate, or when a guy DARES to teach Combat Hapkido without so-and-so's Korean blessing...it becomes the talk of the planet. Their planet.

Or you ignore or condone all this fake behavior and say "who cares?" then blow a cork when your computer program is copied, your check is forged, or YOUR ID is stolen. And not see the simularities of the big picture.

Cop. Soldier. Martial Artist. When you been one of something and worked hard to be one, and some skunk comes along and pretends to be one and tricks many people to believing, it stinks.

When we have a military section here, it is almost expected that this fake topic comes up from time to time. The fake questions come from privates or brigadier generals. The question is the question. They may have all kinds of dogs in the hunt, because thay raise dogs or have been in that kind of hunt.

"What's your agenda?" is often asked of the questioner.

Well, how's about just sniiffing out skunk fucks? As an agenda?  I don't know about you but it just irritates the hell out of me to see some punk in Special Forces uniform, or wearing a Congressional Medal of Honor, or lesser medals and they are flat, lying about it. What is my agenda? I don't know exactly. Maybe its just sniffing out skunk fucks? I relate to people who are bothered by these problems. Privates or generals.

These communities tend to police themselves. We now live in this rapid info world where fakes cannot survive very long. Now, even post fakes from the 70s, 80s and 90s , from the old slower world must try to hide their old faking. We here, are just a small part of this rapid info community.

(AND, the ol' magazine man in me? Is a rookie, 1st amendment thinker and not afraid of little controversy, a little debate, a little arguement.)

Hock

[grlaun]

String all those buggers up, tar & feather 'em or put them in stocks so we can throw rotten food at them!

[Bryan Lee]

  We are currently cutting our teeth rounding up the old fakes and ending once and for all the game of faking your military record. While some might find this all amusing it is the taxpayer who gets the bill, for those who do not pay taxes, they need not concern themselves, for the rest they might want to take a second look.

 
With the large amount of Vets coming out of Iraq and benefits being set up for Vets like home loans, preferential hiring practices, and other programs we are already seeing a flood of fakers lining up to get grubstaked in this new goldrush.

 





Man Found Guilty of Faking Army Career
March 27, 2008
Richmond Times - Dispatch

ROANOKE -- A Roanoke man faces up to 35 years in prison after a federal jury found him guilty of fabricating an Army career that supposedly included combat missions across the globe.

Randall Moneymaker, 44, claimed he had been on active duty since the early 1980s, serving as a Ranger in hot spots such as Grenada, Panama, Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq.

He used his bogus status as a wounded soldier to obtain more than $18,000 in military disability payments and a job as a recruiter for the Army's Active Guard Reserve in Roanoke, according to prosecutors.

In U.S. District Court in Roanoke on Monday, a jury convicted Moneymaker of six counts: five counts of making false statements on forms he filled out to obtain disability and retirement benefits; and one count of theft of government property.

He also faces a fine of more than $1.5 million.

According to documents introduced during Moneymaker's trial, he served in the Reserves in 1981 and 1982 and in the Army from 1983 to 1985. He was given a general discharge under honorable conditions, a discharge slightly below an honorable discharge.

In 2004, he joined the Active Guard Reserve and became a recruiter. At trial, he contended he had been a Ranger before taking that job but that the Army had lost his records.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Jacobsen presented jurors with documents that showed that, during the time Moneymaker said he was overseas on combat missions, he was in the United States working civilian jobs.

A sentencing date has not yet been set.

[michael]

Line 'em all up and run them over with Arnold's short bus.

I have no tolerance for fakes of any kind. Be a man and be what you are, no more, no less. If that isn't good enough, then get up off your duff and be what you claim you are. Take the training, join the police department or the military. Do it instead of talking about it. That's part of being a man, not a wussy boy.

[JimH]

How about the civilian,pretending to have been a US Army Ranger In Iraq and Afghanistan who told of horror stories of abuse his unit did in the war:
Jesse Adam Macbeth ,AKA. Jesse Adam Al-Zaid

He was quoted by the media and brought out by the Democractic party.
His lies were broadcast around the world .

He Should be shot by a firing squad on national TV and posted on You tube.

[Hock]

Jessie McBeth Story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth

Hock

[grlaun]

Sumbitch.