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[Hock]

The "Sgt" of Sgt Jim wagner discussed here:
http://www.hockscqc.com/blogs/07-08/index.htm

After these discussions, Wagner's need to be called that by hook or crook disappeared.

Hock

[Hock]

July, 2010
I just had a LONG discussion with long term, tactical supervisors on Costa Mesa PD. In the late 1990s and early 2000s. The CMPD SWAT team really wanted to protest the ads and claims Jim Wagner makes...

"We (SWAT team guys) wanted to blow the whistle on him.  We were told to run it by the City Attorney, and after doing so, were told to let it go. The City Attorney didn't want us to go there.  So, we let it go."

One CMPD SWAT veteran added (and not Phil Hartman)...  
"He was never a member of the SWAT tactical team...He did hang around the team quite a bit during practices, etc.  I do know that he tried out at least once for the team and did not make it.  Nor would he have ever made the team.  He was a goof and no one liked him. Wagner was a very good artist and could draw pretty much anything.  Based on that, the SWAT Commander at the time, Ron Smith, decided Wagner could be useful at the command post drawing up the interior/exterior of target houses or rooms with the rough sketches we provided.  So he brought Wagner on (to do this) over the objection of the entire SWAT Team. After everything that has happened, we never let Smith forget about it. "

Of course the entire 1990s CMPD SWAT team will gladly come forward should any court action that Wagner might initiate about his ridiculous, false reputation of blatant lies. No court action will come because Wagner cannot have the truth released.

Hock

[robbhamic]

Again, right on the nose with this one. 

http://www.jimwagner.org/2010/08/the-final-word-on-jim-wagners-swat-team-lies-from-the-commander.html

The lady who runs USADOJO.com is mad at me.  Says that Jim never lied about anything.. LOL.  Where has she been since the 1980's?

http://www.fakeselfdefenseinstructors.com/2010/08/and-the-jim-wagner-drama-cntinues-read-below.html

Respectfully,

Robb Hamic

[Kentbob]

If you're making people mad, you must be doing the right thing, Robb.  I for one say "Keep it up!"


Kent

[robbhamic]

Thanks Kent.  At least we know they are still alive..

[SileyEric]

Yes, keep it up.  I think it's easy to forget that it's not just 3-4 guys you've taken on (Rob), it's a whole supporting group underneath them.  Things can get very intense when you start messing with peoples' livelihood like this, regardless of how ill-gotten that livelihood happens to be.

You're tirelessly going after not just them, but their business backers, leaders beneath them, and propagandists.  People have to decide what they stand for, which is a good thing...

[robbhamic]

You are right.  There are so many levels and players in each snake pit.  I am watching my bask as much as I can.  Thanks for your support.

Respectfully,

Robb Hamic

[Hock]

"That is how he and a religious group went to see President Bush.
http://www.projectprayerflag.org/  .Everyone got their group and solo photo with Bush, and while he has this photo on his webpage, Wagner has never invented/rigged up a single story out of it. " Hock, April, 2010


Remember when I wrote that! I WAS WRONG! Wagner did invent a HUGE whopper story around the Prayer Group meeting...Wagner actually wrote this on his webage. Prepare to GAG!

          "I had been invited by my Commander in Chief to a private meeting
             in the Oval Office of the White House for my war effort."

A quote right from the Wagner webpage. A quote next to the standard visitor photo with Bush from the Prayer Group meeting. My question is this - how does Jim wagner have the sheer skunk, punk, audacity to print such a slimy lie?

     Well folks, this…this really demonstrates what a worthless, little piece of wormy shit, Jim Wagner really is. It also epitomizes and demonstrates his life-long method of operation as a con man to stretch, confabulate and lie about his past to trick customers. In this serial episode in Jim Wagner’s twisted career, he gets into a religious group meeting (in his unrelated, un-required California Militia uniform) and gets the standard visitor photo shot, as did each person of the prayer group. And then Jim Wagner prostitutes the highest office, prostitutes President Bush, prostitutes the war effort, prostitutes real soldiers doing real war effort things, prostitutes the California Reserves and prostitutes the Project Prayer Flag group to sell his line of crap. Here is the real “poop,” if you will pardon the pun.

Jim Hartigan (JimH here) investigated this:

“Wagner was invited to the White House event by a friend of his, a Mr. Shawn Black, who is a founding member of "Project Prayer Flag", due to the groups work with the Military and Veterans. Wagner WAS NOT Required to wear his uniform, (Uniform of the CSMR), Wagner wore the uniform for the photo op. Mrs. Black is a retired member of the USMC with 26 years of service and she did not wear her uniform.
If one reads the purpose of Project Prayer Flag and then reads Wagner's account of why he was at the White House one would see Wagner imagination and story-telling taking over from the reality of the event and reason for being at the White House to Meet the President for a Group and private photo op.
Project Prayer Flag site of what they do for military members:
http://www.projectprayerflag.org/about.html
Wagner's news page in which he says he was invited to the White House By the Commander in Chief for his work with the Department of Defense: Quote Wagner
"I had been invited by my Commander in Chief to a private meeting in the Oval Office of the White House for my war effort."
http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/news13apr07colors.html

Jim Hartigan

And P.S. watch little p-boy Wagner quickly take those words off his webpage. (Too late!) It has been photographed and documented

[Hock]

This in, totally unsolicited from another retired CMPD SWAT police. In part, some of what he said ....

    "I came across the old '08 post reference Jim's credentials and issues. I couldn't resist emailing you even though this is a stale topic. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I worked with Jim at Costa Mesa P.D. He was a kooky guy who always seem to live in a "Water Mitty" type of dream world. In patrol, back when there was street justice, he was pretty much a wuss. I don't remember him ever using any level of force, ever.
     On the SWAT subject, Jim was just a "house mouse" who did logistics and maintained gear. The only reason was because the guy in charge, Lt. Ron Smith, felt sorry for him. After he left the PD, well before retirement, we heard about his Air Marshal gig. The Feds came to the PD and were looking in his package. They served a search warrant at his home in Irvine. Nobody was surprised.
     He was just a goofball. He wasn't social. He had few friends. People didn't trust him. He was a wuss as a cop. His only strength was a big imagination and some writing skills. Over the years I've come across some of his stuff online. I just cringe. To me, he has no credibility.
     I don't think Jim deserves a break. I don't think he's nuts either. He just lives in some unrealistic grandiose world that he creates with the stroke of his pen. It seems like he's always been that way. Obviously, he's misrepresented himself and his credentials, over-and-over, to help bolster his personal business. If you're a customer signing up for training, where lives are at stake, you simply deserve to get what you paid for.
     Post what you want. Just don't hook up my email (don't want to be bothered by 'Jailer Jim'.)"  
    

[Black Knife]

This in, totally unsolicited from another retired CMPD SWAT police. In part, some of what he said ....

    "I came across the old '08 post reference Jim's credentials and issues. I couldn't resist emailing you even though this is a stale topic. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I worked with Jim at Costa Mesa P.D. He was a kooky guy who always seem to live in a "Water Mitty" type of dream world. In patrol, back when there was street justice, he was pretty much a wuss. I don't remember him ever using any level of force, ever.
     On the SWAT subject, Jim was just a "house mouse" who did logistics and maintained gear. The only reason was because the guy in charge, Lt. Ron Smith, felt sorry for him. After he left the PD, well before retirement, we heard about his Air Marshal gig. The Feds came to the PD and were looking in his package. They served a search warrant at his home in Irvine. Nobody was surprised.
     He was just a goofball. He wasn't social. He had few friends. People didn't trust him. He was a wuss as a cop. His only strength was a big imagination and some writing skills. Over the years I've come across some of his stuff online. I just cringe. To me, he has no credibility. Post what you want. Just don't hook up my email (don't want to be bothered by 'Jailer Jim'.)"  
    

I like the remark about street justice.....lol....those days are gone due to f*&^%$# video cameras and cell phones...

[JimH]

http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/newsdec2610delta.html

In this news page from JW's site is a recap of 2010 and things for 2011.

To those in Law enforcement,particularly Military Police:
JW has a Picture up,supposedly of him training members of his unit the use of the Baton.
Now I know it used to be that the Baton was Never to come above the shoulder and was never to be held or used like a baseball bat,but in the photo's by JW this seems to be what he is allegedlgy teaching them.
Now am I correct,or is my view Old School ?

He is also going to be doing a Sniper / Counter sniper course.
Do these people still not know he WAS NEVER AN OPERATOR ON A SWAT TEAM and was NEVER a SNIPER.
(the funny thing is the man he will be doing the seminar with is (Dennis Barberic) a REAL Former SWAT Officer and Commander, and this guy is taking a back seat to allow JW to sell his BS that he learned in a weekend at HSS)

I was also surprised to read that JW says he GAVE UP his High Risk page in Black Belt to be able to work for Ms Stamos on the World Wide Dojo,lol.
YEP Jim ,you gave it up,and they just happened to have Kelly McCann ready to take over,lol

[jmech]

To those in Law enforcement,particularly Military Police:
JW has a Picture up,supposedly of him training members of his unit the use of the Baton.
Now I know it used to be that the Baton was Never to come above the shoulder and was never to be held or used like a baseball bat,but in the photo's by JW this seems to be what he is allegedlgy teaching them.
Now am I correct,or is my view Old School ?

At least here in Wisconsin, you are correct (there is one exception to the rule  tho...).  And it has been that way since at least 1994. 

I also get a kick out of the last picture at the bottom of the page, hawking his new book, "There are many original Jim Wagner techniques all through this new book" and the picture accompanying it...thats right Jimmy, no one has ever thought of eye gouging an infant before, and for good reason. Either that or he just created better infant CPR.....

On a side note, with the mention of a search warrant having been executed on Wagner's home-there should be an affidavit that the Officers completed to apply for the warrant, and that should be public record, unless it was sealed for some reason, and would outline the Probable Cause for obtaining the warrant, including what they wanted to look for and why.

Joe

[Hock]

I already know all about the house search, the charges, the names of the officers, the Federal inspectors from DC. I found out about it all first to substantiate the info before I allowed it here, that Wagner was forced to resign from the Air Marshals in less than a year of work, in a quick deal. See Jim Wagner 13 questions - http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,4049.0.html

I have every name and every bit of info discussed here. Just awaiting a law suit or a challenge.

<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>

On the baton...
     The baton poised and rested on the the shoulder, and then that shoulder back in a stance, is the classic, police, baton-ready "fighting" stance. In that sense, the baton is above the shoulder. Many, if not most agencies around the world do not allow the baton to raise up over the officer's head, because this signifies the officer will be hitting the head of a person.
      So years ago, some police desk jockeys decided that their troops could not raise the baton too high up, because it looked bad. This rule caught on and police admins are just replicators of each others rules.
 
<<<<<<>>>>>>>

      I have it on solid, face-to-face, intell from two separate insider people that Wagner was dropped from Black Belt magazine. Too much heat and outside pressure. We all predicted he would say he "resigned" from his column as he said he has "resigned" from everything else he was booted off of. It is 100%, typical Wagner.
      With Black belt gone, Wagner will slip away through time. But he is a pathetic little egomaniac and will never go away. He will lie and lie and try and try.
     In the end I have to admit I feel a little sorry for CDR LTC Frank Naumann, XO CPT James Acquarelli and 1SG MSG Dennis Barberic of the California State Militia Reserves for having this trouble-making, chuckle-head in their command. These guys drew this unlucky piece of coal. He is like your worst employee, isn't he? And imagine being under Sgt. Wagner? It will probably get worse. He just can't help himself.
     And I also have to feel sorry for this poor woman Dana Stamos (friend of Mrs Wagner, by the way) who has been boondoggled by this jerk.

Hock

[JimH]

Wagner now has VIDEO of some of the things called into question up om Youtube.

Here is one :
Jim Wagner TRAINING the n19th SF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY20Whc8Knk

Yes Jim Wagner is at an SF unit ,but the unit he is with ,NOT TRAINING according to the clip,is not SF,They are a Military Intelligence Unit Assigned to an SF Unit.THEY ARE NOT SF.
We see carefull footage taken so as not to see any unit insignia ,except one shot of Sgt Gentry and his SF Patch.
Question though JW,this was filmed in 1994 right ?
Why then does Sgt Gentry not have the required CORRECTED SF Patch with the tab Special Forecs above the Airborne Patch ?
By 1994 it was a requirement that all SF QUALIFIED people wear the Qaulifier SF Tab.
Not in your picture.

I notice that SGT Gentry is seen as an Instructor for most of the weapons being used in the clip.
My take is that Sgt Gentry had been an SF SGT ,with a weapons Sgt MOS and was allowed to teach a course to the MI unit on use of military weapons ,be they the M16,M60,LAW and Mortars.

I also do not see you JW instructing anything.
Sitting on the ground waiting for a ride on a Black Hawk, some great Heko instruction there,lol
(or so it says on the Thank You letter,lol)

At the end the document presented  with SF Letter Head states;
THE MI DETACHMENT would like to THANK JW.
Not the 19th SF would like to thank JW.

When using video to make a point of proof and clarification ,make sure the info that incriminates you ,and shows you to be a liar ,is not on the clip.
LOL

[JimH]

Here is an interesting picture:
http://www.fightfast.com/google/

Wow JW ,under your picture is a caption that says
Special Forces.

You better check yourself my friend as you are not Special Forces qualified by any branch of the US Military,Foreign Military,nor are you Special Forces in any BS Police Agency.

Caption should read
F*****G Pretender
or Big Time Fraud
or WANNABE