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[whitewolf]

I just saw the vidio on Hocks Combatcentric dealing with the march for guns in England-I am 100% in favor of returning weapons to the public. Insure that a background check is  done and get the weapons back in the hands of honest citizens.
As far as the poor bastard who is in jail for defending himself-isnt their someway that he can be freed-holy moly batman that sucks-We Americans hopefully will never have to  give up our personal weapon-Ill bury it in my backyard first with ammo and if needed dig it up and go down fighting- Semper fucking Fi- from Whitewolf (el  lobo blanco)

www.CombatCentric.com 
(citizen self defense column)

[VicMackey]

It would be great to go back the way it was for them when they had firearm freedom. Definitely, they need to free that farmowner who got sent in jail for shooting those 2 bastards, one who survived and is planning to sue him as well. With all the increased incidents involving knives/guns on the street as well as home/store invasions, the gun is needed for the law-abiding, who most got affected by the gun bans. It's way overdue. How much more time would the pansy govt. over there realize that gun bans aren't the thing while the law abiding time and time again get victimized. It seems that the "Death Wish" gang scenarios seem similar to what the UK is going through.

[Brian S]

Stay out of my country's affairs.  You have problems of your own.

 

[GTC-554]

Stay out of my country's affairs.  You have problems of your own.

 

How you gonna stop us, with your gun?

[Brian S]

I doubt it.  You are quite good at invading nations quoting false intel, and then forcing the populace to have the government you pretend that they want.

[Hock]

False intell?
Didn't the entire world, including the UK, believe Iraq have WMDs? (even Al Gore, who went on a bloodthirsty rant, just before 9-11, ridiculing Bush 1 and the newly elected Bush 2 for ignored Iraq at great threat to world safety?)

The intell was the intell of the time, believed by virtually all.

Lets not drop to low, hippy-dippy, IQ levels.

Simple fact is that the USA and Great Britain have really fucked-up governments, but they still are two of the best on the planet. All of them have serious problems.

Move the United Nations headquarters to Gaza Strip. All in favor say AH! (or barely refurbish Alcatraz and have them out there.)
 
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On a serious note. We learn a great deal by studying, and cutting up the events of other countries, their successes and mistakes. Leaving them alone, 'staying out" of  them, is leaving learning and thinking and history alone.

Hock

Two nights ago one of "our guys" heard a noise, middle of the night in his yard. He snatched up his pistol and looked around from inside the house. A man with a screwdriver was working on the spare, bedroom window to get inside. Crazy or not, he went out the front door, ran around the house and charged the man, pistol up and out.
The man was a big black guy, armed with a screw driver and took off running, straight away whe he saw the gun. Running the possibilities, a lot could have gone wrong or right.

[shastana]

Im with you Whitewolf. 

Hey, Britainese people deserve self-protection rights too, that's all we are saying Brian S.  No insults or bad feelings, your country is a great ally to the US, and our gvts work together.  And what happens over there, affects us over here and vice versa.

Quick question, Do you think firearm ownership is a bad idea, just curious? And if yes, why?

[Brian S]

Hock, of course it was false intel.  Just how can expert secret services from both sides of the pond get things so wrong?  They produced what they were told to produce - and it did it's job.

As for the burglar?  They run away just about every time they think they've been seen in this country, including if a ninety year old lady shouts words to the effect of "Ahem.... I see you." 

shastana - Are you really with whitewolf?  The "march for guns" was a march for fox hunting...... and even that was a minority view in this country.  Beyond finding a few people who agreed with the obvious pro gun slant of the reporter.... there was no "march for guns." 

To answer your question, I have no objection to Americans carrying guns.  In America.  Yep, I do like to point out some of the ommissions and flaws in the arguments (they are there on both sides of course, nothing is perfect).  This is especially true since millions of Americans don't want Americans to carry them, neither.  Anyone any stats on which side is in the majority?  Barak Obama didn't get elected on a promise of extending gun ownership did he?

But I do have an objection to this disturbing trend of Americans to try and force their way of life onto different cultures.  Just what business is it of theres?  Why do they feel this need?  We've already had one thread withdrawn about "the Brits want their guns back."  This is demonstrably false.  They don't.

This is a bit like peering through the neighbours window and telling him what he should watch on the TV.  It's a bit sad, and a bit weird.  You watch what you want, and keep your trolley out of my viewing preferences.

I think I made the point some months ago about dress.  Let Californians dress in T Shirts... and let Eskimos dress in furs....  But the minute one side tries to make the other dress like them?  Then we see someone who's not thinking too clearly..... And to suggest that Eskimos are marching for the right to go around in T shirts?  That's just insane.

 

[Hock]

"Hock, of course it was false intel.  Just how can expert secret services from both sides of the pond get things so wrong?  They produced what they were told to produce - and it did it's job."


Now for how many years and administrations and countries agencies were told to produce a coordinated false intell? In American, thats Dadddy Bush and Clinton. Thats a lot of conspiracy years (12)  and over multiple agencies and countries even. Germany had the "Curveball" contact and reported a lot of this to the rest of us.

Virtually the entire United Nations believed this for how many years? 10? 12?  Wouldn't do anyhting about it, but passed all kinds of resolutions about it. 

Masterful, international scam of false intelligence for over about 13 or 14 years! If we can be THAT good, to run that long a mutli-agency and multi-partison party plot, (parties changing over three times in just the USA) if we can do that good a conspiracy job, trick the world and the UN...why can't we do anything else half-way right?

Talk about non-partison co-operation! Libs/Dems and Rebs who HATE each other, switching control back and forth for almost 13 years and yet they all tacticly whisper, "lets hide this and not embaress Clinton, or Bush1."

Right after 9-11, (Bush in office for 9 months, the false conspiracy begins in the USA and UK? How mnay resolutions were passed by the UN at the point? All during the Clinton years and "we have Saddamn in a box" talk.  They had him in a box for some reason.

Hock

[arnold]

Nothing is perfect?! Well, I'll have you know Mr. Vinyl Pants, that twinkies are a near perfect food.
And as for Americans trying to force their way of life on others, well I for one will stay the hell out of the shitholes most of the "offended" individuals came from, and they can take their wailing music, their crappy incense, their petrified goat testicles, their crappy banlon shirts,and they can pack up all of their shit and get the hell out of here if they don't like me and my gun and my way of life.
Do I bother the "dykes" down the street, no, we are on a first name basis. Do I bother the weirdo next door? Nope
And as for pissing in the neighbors window, when did this become a "sport" in the UK. And do you wear your "Spiffy" outfit when partaking in this new activity?

[shastana]

Hey there Brian S, in MY Country, we do have the right to chose which caliber we like to protect ourselves with.  I guess you don't know how really WILD America still is.  We got it all over here, lots of crime, lots of violence, lots of angry haters, lots of trouble.  Hell, we even have wild bear, lion, boar, gator, and on and on and on and on....do you get where I'm going??

You are soo right.  Things should be left to be at that.  And if you are confused on whether I agree with Whitewolf, well you better read my quote below.

Good day my fellow earthling.

[arnold]

Sorry, Old Spiff travels in his own orbit

[Brian S]

Hock, all those years of intel?  Just where did these weapons of mass destruction go then?  Did they disappear?  Did all traces of the complex scientific production methods also vanish?  And just why did all these years of intel only come to light weeks prior to Gulf War 2?

In all seriousness, just why are you all so desperate to tell the Brts how to live, even to the extent that you're inventing what Brits want, making it up as you go along?  Just get on with your own country.... it is't quite that heavenly safe haven that you're all trying to pretend it is.

The general view over here is that the minority of Americans who own guns are a bit weird, perhaps a bit disturbing.  But that's about it.  No one here could care less if you keep them or not.  And there's no credible call for us to be armed, beyond the odd nut job who talks of impending doom and killin' fer Jesus.

I do, indeed, travel in my own orbit...... on here.  I know I'm in the minority..... on here.  So, if you're the majority..... just how did Obama get elected again? 

[Nick Hughes]

it's called the "electoral college" and has bugger all to do with the popular vote.  Google electoral college and educate yourself a bit as to how the process works here.

Nick

[whitewolf]

Brian S of J.O.E.=couple thoughts sir.

1=I think you need to take a US history course.

2=Unless I read one of your post wrong  where you said the minority of Americans own a weapon-I think the Majority owns a weapon. Including my son who lives and hunts  in Alaska and carries a side arm protection against
 wild beasts (animal and human- )

3=Again i say-let the British public arm -quickly..

whitewolf (elb)