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Author Topic: Lesson of the Chair: reduex  (Read 618 times)

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Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« on: April 15, 2009, 10:26:40 PM »

Its time again to tell the old tale (been 2 years I think)...

The Lesson of the Chair:
The Weapons Continuum (a student asked me recently to repeat this old story, because newer people have not read it)

Back in the mid- 1990's I did some seminars in a classical martial arts school in the southeast. The local host loved the diverse, modern material I showed and always contacted the schools in his parent organization coaxing them to attend. Finally after the fourth visit, his “head guy” committed to attend and the local host told me the morning before the seminar,

“Hock, the head guy Joe __________ is coming this weekend. He owns a whole string of these schools all over the southeast and if you impress him, he will start having you in to teach these chains.”

“Good.” I said.

“Well, he wants to see how good you are.” The host said.

“Yeah.” I nodded my head. Such a review was obvious.

“I mean,” the host continued,” He wants to see how good you are. In like…he wants to spar with you. If you spar real well, he will probably start having you in.”

“Spar? Well…ok. I can do that.” I shrugged my shoulders. I had been sparring since the early 1970's, and adequate at it, but certainly no champion. Sparring is hardly a reflection on “how good” my hand, stick, knife, gun combat reality, survival courses are. And, I had purposely spent years weaning myself away from the sport, tennis-match, give-and-take, back-and-forth, "sportee-ness" of kickboxing/sparring to end fights more realistically and quickly. Apples and oranges. This school, this chain, like so manyof the karate and tae kwon do schools today had developed simply into kickboxing and kata academies.

The head guy arrived and was just a super guy. We talked for a bit and then he said to the local host,
“Did you tell him?”
“Yeah,” said the host.

“Good!” the head guy said and turned to me with a friendly smile, “Well, get your stuff.” And he proceeded to the wall where his bag of gear rested. He zipped it open and started in applying shin guards. Next, out came his boxing gloves and mouthpiece. (By the way, this whole thing was no big Hollywood-like, fight challenge, but very casual and friendly, like old workout buddies going to do some sparring.)

I walked to the other wall. In martial arts schools all over the world one thing you always see is the white or green, cheap, plastic chair. For fifty bucks you can buy about 15 of them and seat a whole group of parents. I grabbed the chair and started back to the middle of the mat holding it like a lion tamer.

Still on one knee the head guy looked over at me quizzically.

“This,” I explained, “is my stuff. My gear. When a fight starts I grab the first good weapon I can and fight with it. If I loose the chair, then I am down to hand-to-hand fighting, unless I can get a hold of something else. This is what and how I teach.”

The guy grinned, shook his head and immediately took off his gear off and stuffed it back in the bag. I was prepared to dance around a bit with him after I made this point about the chair. No big deal. But instead, he zipped up his loaded bag. The event attendees showed up and we started the seminar. The head guy had a great time and we got along marvelously for two solid days. At the end he shook my hand and said he learned a lot. But, I was never invited back to this school, or any others in the chain again. Perhaps the message of the chair was shocking? Too much? I don't know.

The chair was just an improvised weapon, what we must reflexively snatch when any fight starts. There are martial arts through the history of time that have actually specialized in the rendering of everyday items into weapons of destruction. This type of training is still afforded to many espionage and special operations agents of today.

The modern warrior, the urban and suburban survivor battles inside a continuum of weapons and their ranges, loosely listed here:

Missiles
Biological weapons
Sniper rifles
Long guns
Anti-tank weaponry / RPGs
Grenade and grenade launchers
Pistols
Short range sprays
Sticks
Knives
Improvised weapons
Hand
Word
History recalls that soldiers in their trenches preparing for battle have lined up their weapons, their ammo and at times even stacked rocks to chunk on the edge of their foxhole when all else is expended! When all is else has been propelled and the enemy closes in, the knife stabs into the fight. Knife gone, then it's the hands. Dead last. Hand to hand fighting is at the bottom of the list (and kick boxing is just a slice of that slice in the weapon's continuum.) The last resort. The worst-case scenario.When you don't even have a rock left to throw!

There is a military and police distinction between heavily-armed and lightly-armed. Few of us will fire missiles from silos, platforms and planes. Few will ever shoot sniper rifles, RPGs and LAWS rockets. For unarmed citizens, even lightly armed cops and guards under strict use of force rules, the improvised weapon is a tricky ace up the sleeve of survival. Improvised weapons of all types surround you. Practice identifying them in your common travels. An improvised tool can be used for three things, to throw, to use as a shield or to batter with in combat.

When is a chair not a chair? In the hands of a lion tamer fending off and controlling the enraged beast.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2010, 09:44:25 PM by Hock »
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Re: Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 10:52:27 PM »

Hock excellent just fuckinjg excellent-he would not invite you to his school because he knew he wold lose students

Here is a true story  along those lines- A GySgt Howard USMC (I think that was his name-)-was trapped a hill in Vietnam with some of remaining men-they ran out of ammo and he used rocks to hold off the enemy.... I think he was awarded MofH-

Back to your lesson-This guy probably never  ever engaged in H2H tactics-it was always in a ring with a referee

At least he was a gentlemen when he saw he was in over his head..

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Re: Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 09:40:09 PM »

It's time for the annual reading of...the chair!

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Re: Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 09:06:20 AM »

You mention the lining up of weapons and ammo before a fight, but I think equally important is rehearsing a plan, or even having a plan.  "If it drops in the pot, I'm going to grab the nearest chair." is kind of the first part, and then mentally confirming that plan, and then looking at ways of continually improving that plan.  "I'm going to grab that chair, and then start looking for exits, or at least cover.  Depending on the situation I may need to advance, or beat a tactical retreat."

This reminds me of when I was sitting outside Samarra back in the beginning of '05.  The battalion was conducting a huge operation there, and other battalions, brigades, and divisions were doing their thing as well.  My squad and I were there to maintain an outer cordon, simply to keep bad guys from escaping by just taking off into the desert.  We had Bradleys as backup, but our first line of defense was our personal and squad weapons, the Bradleys were dug in behind us.

Obviously, the first step of the plan was too shoot at armed people if they started coming towards us.  Then one must modify the plan.  Shoot, and if we start taking overwhelming, effective fire, break contact back to the vehicles.  Then refine the plan.  "We'll use that berm there, then cover the other fire team so they can get bound back.  Then we'll bound to that bit of debris there, and provide cover.  From this last spot it should be easy to get behind the main berm and maintain effective fire on the bad guys, with the Bradley in support."

Obviously, this was a bit of a worst case scenario, and it never came to pass.  But I never forgot the personal realization that any minute bad guys could come boiling out of the city.  Intel said, and continues to say, that Samarra was a hotbed, a hornet's nest, of insurgent activity.  Several operations, "full spectrum", in the modern vernacular, were conducted there.  From psychological operations, civil affairs, and regular old door kicking.  After we left, the 101st conducted a huge airmobile raid on Samarra, with over 1500 Iraqi and American soldiers.  While we were still in country, bad guys blew up the mosque in Samarra, which was quite a famous and beautiful mosque, and also quite huge.  The dedication and planning it took to pull that operation off speak volumes to the amount of support and assistance the insurgents had in Samarra.


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Re: Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 09:49:17 AM »

       "Sometimes to save a village. You have to destroy it."
                                                           - old Vietnam adage

Not to be confused with Hillary Clinton's...

        "It Takes a Village."
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Re: Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 12:04:20 PM »

Not to be confused with

"It takes aVillage to raise an idoit"
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Re: Lesson of the Chair: reduex
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 08:46:05 AM »

My old teacher Aiden used to have a saying : ' Do you know the difference between a chair and a hat ? Turn your back on an angry psychiatric patent and you'll find out ! '

We did some excellent defensive against chair attack drills and using a chair as a weapon. They are very dangerous tool's in a real fight.

. I've seen a solid metal bar seat thrown across a pub

. A chair in a takeaway restrant used on the staff

. A chair used as a platform to commit self harm by hanging

LOL Webby     
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