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Author Topic: CPR in two minutes-Film  (Read 2762 times)

shastana

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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 12:05:03 PM »

What about the barrier resuscitators, would there be any use for them now?  Maybe heart beater without breathing for whatever reason or does head tilt take care of that?

Thanks guys, will get re-certified soon and will check this out!
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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2009, 12:56:09 PM »

The head tilt is used to help ensure that the path is clear for air to travel, it's also one method to check for obstructions that may need to be removed so that air can travel unobstructed. I carry a one way valve system, but as I said Ill bag them first.
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Dan Howden

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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2010, 03:26:21 PM »

It is good to see that rescue breaths are gradually being taken out as they are relatively ineffective and can cause other problems. they increase the chance of the patient aspirating (inhaling their vomit) because as you push air in it goes not only into the lungs, but also into the stomach and this gas builds pressure and will eventually take the path of least resistance (back the way it came) it willl bring vomit with it.
Also without the proper tools, i.e. laryngoscope, Magills, it is not possible to effectively clear the airway. So by forcing air in, you could also be forcing foreign articles further into the lungs.
I agree with the others that is incredibly important to train everyone in effective CPR, as if a person's heart stops, and they recieve effective cpr within five mins it increases their chance of survival exponentially.

Just a side note, and probably me being picky, but in the original CNN video. they go straight from the person being unresponsive to CPR. What about a pulse check? maybe the person is just hammered? Again just me being annoying though

Dan

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whitewolf

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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2010, 07:02:31 PM »

i am going to check this out also-thanks WW
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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2010, 07:07:40 PM »

Hi Dan!
Tell your dad and brothers a big hello from me. (Your dad is no doubt out dodging bullets somewhere as we speak).

I read recently in a book Every Patient tells A Story that it takes, on average, 18 years for almost all doctors to embrace a particular new (and proven) idea.

Hock

Dan Howden

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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2010, 06:57:01 AM »


Yea your right, The medical world is notorious for holding onto outdated techniques. For example a new one that is starting to surface.
Transporting patients on their side, even if they are attatched to a spinal board (as the board can be put on the side and strapped there) This is simply just a modified recovery position, to stop the patient aspirating. It is one of those things that just sounds like common sense (once it has been pointed out to you)
At the moment the vast majority of ambulances transport patients, on a spinal board, on their back. What if they vomit? you, by strapping them to the board have taken away their ability to simply turn their head and get rid of said vomit. so by having them lateral (on their side) you let good old gravity sort that out for you!

Hock,
Everybody says Hi, dad will be off again soon but as of now he is here, Gary finds out soon if he will be assigned to the Apache, so hes getting a bit nervous, as that is all he wants.

Dan
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whitewolf

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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2010, 08:37:12 AM »

I agree with canuk-if i dont know them i am not going to do mouth to  mouth-dam even babies now have HIV-when I was a body guard in Newark NJ for nurses-when we went to a apartment together they told me-dont do mouth to mouth -use a one way tube-
back in the 80s i tried to revive a security officer who had collapsed-i was to late-i was doing mouth to mouth and a police officder responded-he would not take over . After it was over i went to Univ of Penn and aked a doctor if i could have contracted anything-at that time he said he did not think so-again now days-forget it......
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Webby

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Re: CPR in two minutes-Film
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2010, 06:59:41 AM »

Prevention is always better than cure, for the best safety advert ever made go to you tube : Embrace Life - Always wear a seat belt.
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