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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 08:21:59 AM »

I liked it as well and agree that Downey's performance was really good.  Ritchie's camera work was also up there and the script and story were sound.  I was a little disappointed in the way they had Holmes deducing everything so quickly though, but it was a modern movie.  Similarly, the character Tom Hanks played in the Da Vinci Code did the same thing- the deductions were not a product of real problem solving, but in the book they were fascinating as they unfolded.

I also agree that Mark Strong (who played Lord Blackwood) looked more like the Holmes I remembered- Basil Rathbone.  He is a great English actor who was also played a great role as a Jordanian Head of Secret Service in Body of Lies.  The film wasn't great, but Mark Strong was excellent.

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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 09:31:44 AM »

I am surprised to hear several reviewers say that this Holmes didn't deduce anything. It seems he deduced constantly, through the whole movie.

Here is my favorite part, a depth part. Early on, Holmes alone in the restuarant. With wide eyes looking and listening to everyone and everything. Knowing what we know about his obsession to examine and deduce EVERYTHING. His brain is splitting aprt. He must close his eyes. At that moment, the fact that they cared to out that (and Watson's limp) into the movie? I was 'in."

A lot of the action was that choppy film thing where you can't see whats happening. But I really didn't see any Wing Chun in there. Just essence of universal combat. At one second, maybe in the "ring?" The opponent falls back and Holmes hands are either together or slightly together, reminiscent of classical Wing Chun, "palm on forearm."

ANyway, when's the next one?

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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 09:43:09 AM »

We could make one with you (as Holmes) and Arnold (as Watson) in it.   But I think the movie would be primarily made up of Holmes trying stop Watson from beating up/shooting or otherwise blowing up land manatees, politicians, stupid people, criminals, loud mouths, and anyone else he got impatient with just so Holmes could spend a few minutes deducing things.  But it'd make for one hell of a non-stop action/comedy...

Do I hear an Oscar or two?
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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2010, 09:45:22 AM »

Of course, Arnold would have a purple cloak just to enhance his smashing appearance.  I think costumes would definitely get an Oscar and Arnold would beat out Clooney as People Magazine's Sexiest man alive...

Hmmm... I'll have to get to writing a script that Arnold can do in between doses...
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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2010, 11:27:39 PM »

I give it an A+ overall due to the fact that the character's actions pretty much follow the idea of the books. There was probably a little artistic design taken but that is usually the case when a character such as Sherlock Holmes is brought to the main screen. Both Downey and Law were perfect for Holmes and Watson, though I am thinking that Watson's more youthful appearance was for more of a younger audience. The opening fight scene in which Holmes enters the building was really very good. I like how the audience gets an inside look into how Holmes' mind works. He explains just how he will strike the guard and what effect it gives. The bare knuckle fight was excellent too. In watching Holmes opening strikes reminded me of either wing chun or old style boxing palm slaps to the arms followed up with either the back of the hands or palm slaps to his opponent. His work of not letting it get emotional after the guy spits on the back of Holmes' head was great. I thought Holmes was just toying with him before but after that Holmes let him have it.

According to one source, Robert Downey Jr. has dropped out of new movie Cowboys and Aliens to concentrate on the Sherlock Holmes sequel, according to reports.

The Hollywood actor was set to re-team with Iron Man director Jon Favreau for the sci-fi adventure, based on the 2006 graphic novel of the same name.

But Favreau is now looking for a new star after Downey Jr. quit the project following a schedule clash with a planned follow-up to the detective drama, according to EW.com.

Studio bosses are reportedly set to have Downey Jr. back as Holmes in June to start shooting the sequel.

I'm hoping that the sequel will be a good one. Sometimes though it tends not to be because of the newness not being the same, but I'm hoping thats not the case. Can't wait for it to be out on DVD.   
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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2010, 09:52:28 AM »

It will be more Prof Moriety and Irene Adler "thee woman," for sure.

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Re: Sherlock Holmes
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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2010, 06:47:38 PM »

Bartitsu film documentary and web page

http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/tag/sherlock-holmes/

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Re: Sherlock Holmes
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2010, 04:27:08 AM »

I still haven't gotten around to seeing this movie. I did look into the Bartitsu as a fighting system. I was saddened to see that most of the resources I found appeared to be more enamored with the "recreation and reenactment" of that time period and its mythos, than they were with actually honing a fighting skill. The above documentary Hock posted does show that the fighters are out there, tho.
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