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[whitewolf]

By accident i found a couple african martial art vidios-what is very interesting is -forget the dance movements -if you look at the demos of the actual strikes they are very fast and appear dangerous to the opponent
look for =empty hands-kilindi-part 2 on the vidios
WW

[VicMackey]

I think Panther Productions used to have a similar series of African martial arts, as they are also called "Tamerrian martial arts". From history on down, the Zulus have used it to brutal effectiveness.

[VicMackey]

Some of the African martial arts methods may have also been modified and passed down to other systems from its root, such as Capoeira and Jailhouse Fighting as used by a lot of the African American prisoners.

[whitewolf]

Vic-thanks-what is interesting to me is that many western instructors fail to reolize that there are other styles then they teach in the world. The word you used "brutal" is a good one.

As i continue looking into cqc tactics i see the more i review various styles it comes down to the more simple and fast the tactic is the more it may incapacitate the opponent.

I also see that we are going in a circle as far as cqc tactics is concerned-weither we like it or not the WWII era of tactics seem to be poppng up more and more-which i personally think is the right way to go.

take tactics from kempo-KM-BJJ-boxing-judo-muy tai-knifefighting-mix them up and use what will stop the opponent-get instructors to think outside the box-

what do you guys out there think??  WW (ELB) "speed of light"

[rutleddc]

My last Kung Fu instructor thought my approach was too crude, brutal, and aggressive. He tried to teach me some refinement and did improve me a lot. But he got frustrated because he could never change my fighting first, art second approach to training. But I was a very small kid who got in a lot of fights growing up on the edge of Washington DC in the 1960s, and I could not ever forget that the reason I started Parker Kenpo 30 years ago was was to keep from getting my ass kicked.

Its great to look good winning fights, but I would rather win ugly than lose with style...

[whitewolf]

rut-i am ugly all ready so it dont matter- be brutal  -ww

[grlaun]

check out the african stick fighting and the knobkerry.  Its pretty nasty stuff.. the shambok is evil too!

[arnold]

Fess up, it was the dance steps that hooked you!

[grlaun]

   yeah, arnold's right... the I succumbed to the dance moves once again...

[whitewolf]

i went and googled the weapon-very dangerous in deed-ww

[grlaun]

the wife and father-in-law would often mention the many caved skulls they would see walking around after such fights.

[whitewolf]

the weapon is illegal now -but the info said the police still carry it- the article also said they are made of plastic also and threaded up a sleeve and around doen the other arm-when pulled out it will be vicious. ww