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whitewolf

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Sambo instructor in NYC
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:45:15 PM »

JimH- have you heard of Mr
stephen Koepfer -shows sambo vidios-looks ok but i am not a sambo student-WW
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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 06:22:38 PM »

Yes I have heard of him.
Mr Koepfer is the head of the American Combat Sambo.
He also has a website http://www.worldwidegrappling.com/grappling/html/modules/vB/showthread.php?t=947
(Bryan from this forum posts there)
They have some clips on the forum that are interesting,especially of Steve's coach Alexander Barakov,you see other aspects of Sambo than the Judo like side.

I have never met him
I have met a couple of people who have trained in Combat Sambo with him ,they say he is a Good instructor.
One gentleman who had trained in Sambo when he was in the Russian Military,trained with Mr Koepfer and left due to previous injuries,trained with us for a couple months  and showed us some variations of techniques we do which were good.
I have seen some of Mr Koepfer's clips and he seems to be good.
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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 06:44:25 PM »

JimH- thanks- ill start reviewing more of the vidios-i am all ready practising one-wher you start a hip throw and opponent moves to side so u bend down grab leg roll forward and over go into leg lock-i have not done it with a partner yet only use a dummy and going over it with no resistance- stay safe WW
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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 05:05:33 PM »

Hi guys,

A am actually registered here, but almost never show up. Too many forums, too little time.

But, please feel free to contact me with any questions on this thread. I will favoritue the thread.

You can also e-mail me at samboinfo@yahoo.com or find me on facebook.

If you have not visited my youtube page: www.youtube.com/sambosteve

JimH, I am curious which of my students you met?
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whitewolf

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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 05:15:28 PM »

glad to see you on the forum -good vidio   WW (ELB) "speed of light"
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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 05:22:23 PM »

Thanks. I honestly have not been on the net much. Time management, tired of net drama, etc. I still find time to pick a few fights here and there...LOL, but generally my actual life keeps me pretty busy. But, right now I have a broken ankle, so I have had more free time to surf around. Did a seach for my school and found this thread (yes, ego, like to see where my club's name is popping up).
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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 07:11:33 PM »


Whitewolf, I looked into Steve and his organization a few years ago back when we were looking for some direction in grappling and checked out Sambo. Geographically we are much closer to Russia and Sambo than the Americas and Jiu Jitsu so we were interested in Sambo. There are some other interesting issues relating to Russia for us like friends from there, friends who fight there, gun ranges, and inexpensive shooting.

  Back to Steve, he has always been a straight shooter with me through emails when I was asking him about his organization. His organization is small but that's good in some ways because he can stay on top of things. Sambo is valid training and I really like Combat Sambo because it combines striking with grappling to make it a more realistic combat sport than grappling alone. It also offers some safety equipment like shin pads and headgear so its not full blown MMA. This does not make it any less hardcore because you can still win by knockout. Safety equipment can help prevent cuts and other injuries which many non pro fighters want to avoid.

  Steve has put out many video clips in the past but I'm not sure where all the links are, maybe on his YouTube Channel. You can dig around on his Grappling Forums too as there is much information there. If you are looking for a grappling organization to get involved with you should talk to Steve. I stated in the past If I was in the United States I would have joined his organization back when I first looked into it. Now we are involved in to much other stuff but I still read his forum and sometimes post there.

If I had any criticism it would be he has a close relationship with the Bullshido Forum and has a couple friends who are prominent (Jack Asses) members there. That entire mess is a distraction from training and for the most part is just a bunch of internet bullshit. I think even he gets bored with drama associated with Martial Artist.

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 07:26:41 PM »

thanks bryan-good information-pads and stuff like shin guards, mouth pieces etc are ok with me-one can still bang away- at the school where i share classes  the MMA guys are mostly hurt-steel plates in legs,broken ankles,etc etc- waste of time as far as i am concerned-wait till they are my age-hehehheh-oh pain..
stay safe WW
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2010, 08:26:58 PM »

Hi Steve,
I have seen your clips.
Also saw some of your segments on Inside Martial Arts.
One of the shows I think was from Gleason's gym.
Nice materials.

The men I knew,who said they trained with you were from the Bronx NY.
Sorry I do not remember their names.
They trained with us about 2 years ago.
Both stayed a short time.
One man was older and had started his Sambo in Officer Training for the Russian military and had trained in it regularly.
Came to the our school and said he had trained with you and left due to former injuries.
(This is also why he said he left our school,injuries)
He showed us some variations of techniques we did.
His son was a brown belt in TKD at a school near where they lived in the Bronx.
They lived near White Plains Road and Pelham Parkway.
Don't know if that helps,sorry.

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Re: Sambo instructor in NYC
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2010, 09:08:44 PM »

to sambosteve-by accident i found a vidio u made in 2004 in europe- excellent- WW
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2010, 10:34:56 PM »

Thanks Jim. I will have to look through my old records. I have had a lot of Russian guys in the club :)

WW, saw your post on the serbia clip. Thanks.

Bryan, let's not bring Bullshido into this, except to say I strongly disagree with you. It will trash another thread if we go there.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2010, 10:51:35 PM »

strongly agree about bringing other off subject trash-we are on a roll lately- lots of training perspectives-no cutting down each other- lets keep it that way- i for one learn a hell of  lot from the others on here. besides-sense i  am so "old" i got to review or ill forget-  ;D whitewolf (elb) "speed of light" -and i might add- getting faster..(in my own mind).
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2010, 11:02:33 PM »

WW, training with those guys in Serbia was a blast. Great city...Belgrade. Some tough guys there.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2010, 02:12:33 AM »



Bryan, let's not bring Bullshido into this, except to say I strongly disagree with you. It will trash another thread if we go there.

Steve, That was my entire point. If you did not have a strong presence at Bullshido their name would never come up here when talking about Sambo. As things stand your relationship to bullshido is relevant to people researching you and your organization.

  While its not enough for me to disregard you its enough for me to keep a watchful eye on your actions. You have been involved on threads where you handled yourself professionally but some of the information you presented was used to make personal attacks against those who were supposedly being investigated. In a recent case when you had a member of your own organization prove to be a complete liar, he even admitted it himself, he was handled with kid gloves making it appear you have two standards.

Back to Sambo, I believe there was a window of opportunity for Sambo to take off in America and I also believe you were ahead of the curve with grappling. unfortunately many things have happened in America and around the world that have closed that window. Sambo is relevant and your organisation seems to be taking care of business but the entire Olympics fiasco has pretty much killed off any chance Sambo ever had of growing into anything bigger than it is now outsde of Russia. In fact the growth seems to be finished now and Im seeing more leg locks in Jiu Jitsu but hearing less than ever about about Sambo.

  Maybe if another Fedor swims the oceans to American MMA there will be a renewed interest in Sambo.

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2010, 10:21:36 AM »

Steve, That was my entire point. If you did not have a strong presence at Bullshido their name would never come up here when talking about Sambo. As things stand your relationship to bullshido is relevant to people researching you and your organization.

  While its not enough for me to disregard you its enough for me to keep a watchful eye on your actions. You have been involved on threads where you handled yourself professionally but some of the information you presented was used to make personal attacks against those who were supposedly being investigated. In a recent case when you had a member of your own organization prove to be a complete liar, he even admitted it himself, he was handled with kid gloves making it appear you have two standards.


First off Bryan, it just seems you can't let it go and had to go there. Nobody started this thread in relationship to researching my organization or Bullshido. The thread was specifically about me as an instructor and videos. Period. Are you that attention seeking that you need to revive your own petty feuds in a context that did not dictate such a discussion?

But, since you went there, Regarding bullshido and anything I may or may not have said that was used against people, I will assume you are talking about yourself. And that is the pot calling the kettle black. You put someone and their family at serious risk. About that, I have to say I have always kept pretty much out of your beef with Bullshido, regardless of my presence there and your idiotic behavior. I have offered you more respect than many felt you deserved. And you are NOT a member of my organization. On our forums, you have been respectful (needed to be reigned in at times privately), but never caused a problem at our site. I offered you the same consideration on Bullshido and pretty much steered clear...even while you crossed the line with a good friend of mine. Anything that was said in my forum by me or you that may have been used agaist you was instigated by you. Your own quotes were used against you here and at Bullshido, as were mine. But, if you recall, you thought my comments to you about your inappropriate desire to start a combat sambo school were fair. So, in that regard, you made your own bed.

Reagrding someone who was outed as a liar and even admitted it...from my organization. I can only assume you mean Brandon Quick. Here is the difference, and it is a big one. The shit hit the fan for him BEFORE joining the ASA. Secondly, unlike you HE ADMITTED TO LYING...as you note in your own post here. As you can see I generally give people the benefit of the doubt, as I did with you. I, and the ASA board did so with Brandon because he did come clean, he did try to make ammends, and did come to us after the fact. We gave him a chance, as so far he has lived up to our requests and expectations.

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Back to Sambo, I believe there was a window of opportunity for Sambo to take off in America and I also believe you were ahead of the curve with grappling. unfortunately many things have happened in America and around the world that have closed that window. Sambo is relevant and your organisation seems to be taking care of business but the entire Olympics fiasco has pretty much killed off any chance Sambo ever had of growing into anything bigger than it is now outsde of Russia. In fact the growth seems to be finished now and Im seeing more leg locks in Jiu Jitsu but hearing less than ever about about Sambo.

  Maybe if another Fedor swims the oceans to American MMA there will be a renewed interest in Sambo.

Regarding sambo politics and stature. I am not even going to bother explaining things to you. You really have no idea what you are talking about. You are not in the sambo scene in the US, or internationally, not involved in sambo in any credible way and never have been, have never trained sambo in any credible way, and generally lack the needed knowledge and relationships to even make such an assessment. Besides the fact that you are dead wrong about sambo's growth (or decline as you feel) and your assumption that thoughts of olympic glory are ubiquitous in the sambo world.

Now, let's try to stay on topic and not trash another thread.
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