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Author Topic: Obama, Bush, Oil, War  (Read 1276 times)

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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 09:11:25 PM »

Well we, the subjects of US Foreign Policy who don't get a vote, like him. Far better than that puppet of the neo-cons George Dubbya from where we sit. Still, we voted in Rudd, a lefty and he has left everyone wondering why did we do it!
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 06:10:56 AM »

I give him an F. As in "Him, Him FUCK him!
Saw a new big o bumper sticker today and it said, Obama, it's like letting the paperboy run the newspaper
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 09:42:25 AM »

Obama is popular here in Britain and from what I hear he is popular in Europe. He has a kind of pop star appeal to people who aren’t even interested in politics, a bit like Nelson Mandela.  My humble opinion is that he is good for America’s international image but bad for Americans.

He seems to run around the world humbling his country and almost sounds apologetic for being American at times. I’d be furious if I was a Yank. Didn’t his wife say something about being proud of America for the first time when he was elected? Hardly the words of a patriot. Then there was that bow to the Saudi King…………

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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 11:28:22 AM »

Well, not everybody in Europe will shake Obama's hand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1C_NWMRs8Q
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 08:06:51 PM »

He is the most a**kissing, socialistic US President we have ever had in the White House. I would bet right now that if the Saudi King would ask him to, he would kiss his posterior. Zero despises all of what America stands for and given his questionable citizenship status, he does not deserve to be President. And as far as gun control goes, he is not able to mount any action for it. He might have some tricks up his sleeve to make it appear that he isn't doing anything. So far the US has not given in to CIFTA/UN and the IANSA at this time because the gun owners and gun rights organizations like the NRA, GOA (am a member of both), etc. are keeping tabs on those left-wingers, the Health Care reform bill, and Zero. I wish Zero only 4 yrs. in office.
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 10:51:29 PM »

He's still better than the last one. I mean... really. That bloke was a puppet and he dragged us all into a war we need not have fought. But I guess the Right just lapped him up.
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 03:34:16 AM »

Which war. Iraq or Afghanistan did the puppet bloke drag us in?

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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 04:41:15 AM »

Both. Iraq was for all the wrong reasons, no connection to 9/11 and we were lied to about WMD etc. It was all about oil. Afghanistan was not about getting Al Qaida either. It was about getting that oil pipeline through from one 'Stan to another. The USA supported all three, Saddam, Bin Laden and the Taliban when it suited them, just as they did to Batista then Castro, Noriega and the rest. Bush and his Neo-Con puppet masters had very ulterior motives indeed.

Still, I'd rather Bush in charge of the world's largest military than  Kim Il Jung or Armandjian what's his name.
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 05:38:01 AM »

Oil.
Oil?
Man, did we screw that up. We went throught a horrible, economy wrecking gas/oil  price increase and gas is quite high again. Iraq has not paid back a dime and we are buying some oil from Iraq. Not getting any free....we haven't confiscated any oil wells...wonder how we benefited...

Oh the pipeline. the "Neo Con" masters...ahhh...I presume of no particular nationality...international...Russian...etc. neo cons...conspired to build the pipeline and get ...oil in and out of...? To?

MAN! Someone who would do all that for a pipeline must be the most insidious, evil, heartless bastard. A James Bond villian! Imagine the profile of such a leader! Worst of the worst psychopath to reek some destruction to build a pipeline. Forgoing all human life...thoughtlessly. Premeditated. Imagine the international, global PLANNING! What competent geniuses to pull off such a global scheme.

Who exactly are the...neocons?

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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 12:06:42 PM »

Genuis? I thought all of the left wing loonies thought Bush was an idiot, but yet he managed to start a war, get a pipeline, only to have gas prices hit all time highs. Yep, makes perfect sense.
And Michelle Obama calling Hillary "senator" ! Talk about your Freudian slip
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 02:59:13 PM »

Yes, Bush is either one of the most evil geniuses of all time, or the utter, empty-headed idiot - and then this international cartel pulled his empty-headed strings. They must then been the worst, psycho humans collected in history.

Maybe someday people will understand that:

a) Presidents or people cannot predict history. They react to circumstances at
    hand. Its so easy to look back and make up shit.

b) Presidents are just people, not miracle workers.

c) Bin Laden, et al... essentially took over Afghanistan. THAT is where
    the enemy was after the 911 bombing. Hideous country of
    ignorant, zealot people in charge

d) Everyone, (did I say EVERYONE) even Al Gore and Clinton and everyone on
    the planet, including Saddamn himself, said they had WMDs. Even the UN
    weapon experts were messed with and restricted and suspicious.

e) The United Nations is worthless cardboard cut out.

WHAT a conspiracy! What geniuses to pull all this off from top to bottom! We need them in charge! Wait! They are in charge. Secretly. What a mess.

Who exactly are these....omnipotent, brillant, Neo Cons?

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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 05:26:53 PM »

Hock, you can be as sarcastic as you like  ;D but the rest of the world see things slightly differently in many cases. Just because you personally aren't getting any free oil doesn't mean others didn't. Blackwater and all those private contractors that made billions out of the place, how many were owned by Cheney and Rumsfeld and the Bush family?  
The Neo-Cons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism is a good place to start. Of course that is all written by 'conspiracy theorists' so why not try

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Neo-conservative

or how about

http://ipsnews.net/new_focus/neo-cons/index.asp

There is plenty of evidence the pipeline from Kirghizstan.Uzbejistan to Pakistan and the sea was held up by the Taliban and the neo-cons are on record prior to 9/11 as saying they will fix that. But then that could be just a conspiracy theory, those damn liberals will stop at nothing, right?  ;D
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 07:24:03 PM »

And I'll bet you think Bush bombed the Pentagon too!
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Re: CBS poll: Grade Obama's First Year in Office
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 12:23:25 AM »

I'm pretty sure no terrorist with a half dozen hours up his sleeve flew a 757 across the lawn and into the Pentagon without touching the grass once. I don't know what happened there but I don't believe it was as it has been portrayed. I can't accept the whole thing was a conspiracy, too many people in the know and too many mouths to keep shut. But maybe one day before I die I will know the truth, not that it will make a scrap of difference.

Hey, I was chuckling the other day when I read how that stunt of Bush on the aircraft carrier claiming the war in Iraq was won and over happened off the coast of San Diego! Never gave it another thought at the time. Like many, I thought it was in the Persian Gulf and the carrier was actively involved in the war at the time. In fact the camera crews had to be careful they didn't get the San Diego skyline in shot. What a joke.
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