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Author Topic: Sinawalli & Combat  (Read 2021 times)

GermMaster

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Re: Sinawalli & Combat
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 06:56:26 AM »

I have friends who told me "I'd just pick up a stick". Funny how none of them ever could find a "stick on the street". Some did have enough wits to notice a car antennae looked like a stick, though these days they don't break off like the old ones did.
What I don't understand is how a lot of people who train with sticks can't just take the concept of "hitting certain targets on the human body with something hard" from their training. It's sure a lot easier finding something hard to use as a weapon rather than always trying to find a stick.
 

I agree.  I'm trying to think when was the last time I saw a stick on the street.  I couldn't remember any.  I do remember when I was a kid I used to play with a car antennae using it like a fencing sword.  I don't think it would be an effective weapon with the way it wobbles.  You're better of with an umbrella.
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Re: Sinawalli & Combat
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2010, 07:22:52 AM »

The other day I broke a long stick while whacking the tyres and without thinking flowed into a siniwalli pattern. Perhaps a similare vent has happened in history where a fighter with a spear had it broken or cut in two and then went into the double stick routine?

As for sticks lying around the street, there are plenty where I live as we have a lot of trees but as soon as you get near the shops or the mall, the trees and the sticks tend to hide.
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Re: Sinawalli & Combat
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2010, 04:42:57 AM »

As for siniwali being used in actual combat historically, I do not know. However, it is a good drill to use to build coordination in both hands. One can never guarantee what will transpire in actual combat.

You can't guarantee which hand the stick will end up in- you can't guarantee your "good" arm/hand etc. will be able to hold a stick, or anything else for that matter, so it behooves one to learn to use both hands.

As for sticks being out in the world- funny you should mention this. I was talking to a training partner the other day about this. If you look around, they are present quite often. Some examples-

I was in the gym, and noticed various barbells without weights on them, and then handles for various machines, like the lat pulldown bar, and the tricep extension bar just laying on the floor near the machines.

On the street, I've seen 2X4's, lengths of rebar, broom/mop handles, rakes, shovels, pipes, fence posts, various signs stuck in the ground, pieces of furniture, and the list goes on. This isn't pie in the sky either- these are things I see often.

Inside in various places, like restaurants, nightclubs, schools, and other businesses, you'll see- pool cues, mops, brooms, signposts, various poles used to hold up velvet ropes or chains, handrails, chair and table legs, and the list goes on. Don't forget, things can get smashed/broken during a fight, and then things you never thought of could become available, especially during a riot/brawl. Why not use them if it's appropriate? Hell, break a chair or something if your life depends on it. Especially break it on the opponent!

Don't tell me there are no sticks around. There are objects everywhere if you really look.
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