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Author Topic: Stolen valor law Repealed  (Read 1964 times)

Hock

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Stolen valor law Repealed
« on: July 20, 2010, 10:12:11 AM »

Walter Mitty's Rejoice!
Break out the phony uniforms and the phony medals.
It is okay to lie again and pretend you were a SEAL, a Green Beret, a war hero, etc!

Yes, a federal judge has over ruled the Stolen Valor Law. Its legal to lie...

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/07/breaking-stolen-valor-act-ruled-unconstitutional.html

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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 01:45:16 PM »

There ya have it Vets an current serving Mil. What a slap in the face! If it means anything to ya, thankyou for your service (even though im not an American)
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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 08:32:36 AM »

This case should have been handled differently,as the subject in this case pretended to be a Wounded Veteran and Silver Star winner to get a job with the VA.
He is guilty of Fraud,even if the Stolen valor law has flaws in it.

The judge said that it came down to the First amendment rights / Freedom of Speech,as the Stolen Valor Law has No specifics as to crimes within the law,such as Deception and Fraud.

The Judge said the law needs to be enhanced  so that it is fully enforceable.

The ACLU brought the fact that the Law had no specifics up as a means to call the law unconstitutional and unenforceable.

Hopefully the errors in the law will be corrected.
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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 07:09:51 PM »

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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 10:23:16 PM »

Ah bull shit- the guy lied on his application-he should have been terminated-plain and simple-thats my opinion and i am sticking to it- WW


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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 12:11:32 AM »

Should Faking Military Honors Be Illegal?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2006987,00.html

If some idiot wants to play Jim Wagner and make their pathetic life more interesting to his beer-buds, like the article said, who gives a flip? But when said lies generate business, revenue, and even gov't bennies? That is, IMHO, fraud and theft. And not even in the cases where people actually got funds designated for real vets. If Joe Dirt says he's an Army Ranger to bring in more students to his McDojo, he has acquired money through fraudulent means, and since he saw fit to drag the military into it, he ought then be subject to military law :) Then he can really say he spend time in the Army...prison.
Or, just give real medal earners a few "get out of jail free" cards so they can beat the tar out of people who haven't earned the honors.

From the Times article...what idiot thinks an SF decorated uniform "looks cool" at paramedic training. At Training!? Not even graduation, but just during "training"!? After spending a decade working with fireguys and para-magics, all that'll do is make them think you're one large, hirsute, semi-flacid tool.
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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 07:19:15 PM »

A lot of issues like this could be settled very quickly if we'd bring back a dueling code, and make dueling legal.  Think of all the loudmouths and blowhards who would probably STFU real quicklike knowing that anyone could challenge them to a duel at any minute for running their suckholes and spouting BS like this?


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Re: Stolen valor law Repealed
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 11:45:23 PM »

A lot of issues like this could be settled very quickly if we'd bring back a dueling code, and make dueling legal.  Think of all the loudmouths and blowhards who would probably STFU real quicklike knowing that anyone could challenge them to a duel at any minute for running their suckholes and spouting BS like this?


Kent

Yea, To bad it will never happen! We live in a chickenshit world!