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Author Topic: Let's Dance  (Read 528 times)

Kelly Knight

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Let's Dance
« on: August 03, 2010, 07:04:32 AM »

Hock,

Here is some video of the Presas Shuffle, as I mentioned to you this past weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxYkRkJ69E

Enjoy!

Kelly Knight

PS - This is not a request for the next seminar! Ha ha!
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Re: Let's Dance
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 08:15:28 AM »

I have seen that episode. I have trained on that very open city area in the beginning of the clip. That is Ernesto's son Jon-Jon.

I have seen many film clips of huge numbers or performers doing double stick drills with very thin sticks and choreographed dance steps. They say that Filipinos, like so many cultures had to hide the fighting moves inside things like dancing when under the control of various regimes. As fighting practice was outlawed to prevent the growth of fighting skills for any rebellion.

Ernesto has always mentioned this and these roots, but does not officially teach dance or teach this thin stick, dance show stuff. He sticks with the classic footwork patterns as they relate to martial arts footwork.

I saw that part where Jon-Jon was doing "standing center lock" or what the Japanese call Sankyo in the early practice style/progression of doing right lock, then stepping off doing left lock, then stepping off to the other. Classic V footwork really. The uke/victim is just a pliable wing chun dummy at this point in practice.

That practice was a Remy favorite and also Wally Jay of Small Circle JuJitsu.

Meanwhile Ernesto is VERY graceful and I'll bet he can really "cut a rug."

Football and soccer drills help a lot too. Makes me think of all the players having to take ballet!

Somewhere here on the forum is a clip of Alpine Germans doing chorus-line, dance steps with thin sticks. Where that came from? 

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Kelly Knight

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Re: Let's Dance
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 08:59:27 AM »

Very interesting! Reminds me of Capoeira, a bit, in concept.

I too love the series by Chris Crudelli. I find it so much more watchable than all of the similar copy-cat US shows. It doesn't beat the viewer over the head with a point of view. His other series were superb, too. I love the one episode in Miracles where the guy sinks the knife into his own arm like a piece of meat. Guess that iron shirt stuff only works so well...

Ever run across him, Hock? Seems like a very interesting guy. I have been unsuccessful in figuring out who his instructor is/was online.

http://mindbodygroup.co.uk/

Kelly Knight
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Re: Let's Dance
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 10:00:39 AM »

I don't think so.

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Re: Let's Dance
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 09:57:44 PM »

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