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[Hock]

And HEY!

Me too.
On Wednesday nights I am finishing off my doctorate in basket weaving. This shit can get pretty intense now. Don't laugh. Pattern 112 : stick, twist flammy-spin, twist, bend right, bend left, flammy-split...yeah! That's what I am talking about.

I don't see how my attending my class should disqualify me from voting. How else can I vote for my grant program that keeps paying me to go to college? (I am 1/16th Antartican, and therefore eligible for these grants.)

Soon to be Dr. Hock
(I could take the easy way and pay $75 at a martial arts Hall of Fame banquet and become a Doctor. But I am taking the harder basket weaving path. Out of self respect!)


 

[sarguy]

Sarguy is spot on! College students should not be allowed to vote.

I would like to point out that I am a college student as well.

Oopsey!

(It's just the meds getting the best of Uncle Arnold again!)

  and actually, I'm a full-time, nontraditional college student, too. There are a few people here with life under their belts and a bit of common sense, but by and large, I'm surrounded by a lot of people who've never lived apart from mommy and daddy before. Those inexperienced masses are the ones I worry about. The incident that our conversation brought to mind was one where a bunch of 18 year-old high school seniors were induced to vote for a school levy in which they had no obligation to pay the potential increase in property tax (and the probably didn't care if their parents did)

College or not, I think we need a couple of years on our own, either via the military or in the workforce, to mature us before we vote. Seems that I recall that the society in Heinleine's Starship troopers had to put in two years of service before they could vote. I like that idea. To bad here, we'd have all sorts of loopholes for COs, people on welfare who are too lazy, disadvantaged and left-handed transvestites, etc.

Hock, is your Doctorate in Left-handed basket-weaving, or right handed?

http://web.archive.org/web/20071103014910/http://www.uca.edu/divisions/academic/honors/pub/vino/0203/vino21_4.1/newDegree.htm

[Kentbob]

Well, in Starship Troopers, EVERYONE had the RIGHT to serve, no matter how messed up.  And the minimum was two years, I think, subject to the needs of the military.  Can't quite remember.

I don't know exactly what is considered a "traditional" college student.  I'm 30, three overseas tours and 11 years military service attending college.  I see a lot of what you're talking about, kids with no real knowledge of the world.  History class is going to be interesting, because I can already tell who the "blame the white man" people are going to be.

It's interesting how much of the beliefs, prejudices, and ignorance of the young is due to social conditioning.  I've been reading "Brave New World", and the parallels between the story, which was written back in the Twenties or Thirties, and modern life are scary.

I spoke out today in English class, we were talking about beliefs that may have changed over time.  I told the class that at one point in time I believed it was the government's responsibility to provide for the people, which I no longer believe.  This semester is going to be interesting, that's for sure.


Kent

[arnold]

Kentbob,
You are a Superhero in disguise as a college student. You are in the military. You get a pass

[Kentbob]

My disguise is so good, even I don't recognize my superhero status sometimes.


Kent

[sarguy]

Starship Troopers, Brave New World, Atlas Shrugged, and 1984 should be required reading to get a driver's license. And to be read again for high school, and then college graduation.

Thanks for serving, Kentbob. FWIW, I think anyone over 25 with a few years away from college qualifies as a nontraditional student.

(I wish the RIGHT to serve a la Troopers existed in some fashion. I tried to join the Army and was permanently DQ'd for a "heart problem" which was really just a fast heart rate due to being nervous over the thought of a 5 year enlistment into some MOS that I wasn't sure I'd like. I tried for wavers, but back in 1998 or so, the recruiters didn't seem to want a good student w/ an ASVAB of 97 that bad. Years later I found out the MEPS doc was notorious for just DQing people he didn't like, and passing people he did)

[arnold]

Kentster,
Have toe mirrors installed in your Superhero boots. This way when you look down upon the teaming masses, you will see yourself and recognize who and what you are and know that the average person is an idiot and voted for the village idiot.

[Hock]

Lefty! Let's see then....that would mean....stick, twist flammy-spin, twist, bend LEFT, bend RIGHT, flammy-split...   I can't handle it the truth!


Small Government. Less Tax. The government should RELUCTANTLY do only that it absolutey has to do. Step by step relunctantly. This means tip-toeing into many subjects and areas. BUT with extreme relunctance.

Ever watch the TV show Parks and Rec? Someone on that show has worked for the government. The gov hires the extra 15th person. The 18th, doing work the first 12 could have done. Then the economy wanes and we have a bloated government we can't pay for. All unionized these days. Multiply that by a million.

Government by extreme reluctance.

The people who think otherewise are unrealistic and have a thinking disorder and a failure of enough common sense to see the obvious future. The future is as obvious as California, New Jersey...etc....as well as the nightly news.

[rutleddc]

Actually lefty is an islamic word that means first offender.