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[Hock]

http://devinglage.com/fitness/p90x-vs-crossfit/

[Kentbob]

The definition of what it means to be a superior exercise program is not, and cannot be objective.  In order for one exercise program to be superior to another, the client has to have certain needs that one program meets better than another.


Kent

[VicMackey]

There is no such thing as a better workout program than the other. Depends on the individual's fitness goals, whether to look good, stay healthy, be physically prepared for a confrontation, etc. There are so many exercise program and fads out there but unfortunately, some drop out for a while due to lack of dedication or plain just giving up. It takes individual motivation and discipline to maintain on an exercise program. My main motivation are those incarcerated felons who regularly work out at the prison and then they get more dangerous once released into society. Each one of us may encounter them someday so this gives me motivation to work out. To prevent boredom, which can cause one to lose motivation, I vary my workout routine each day. And I do not stick to one strength or cardio training routine.

[JimH]

P90X is a do at home training system that costs around 130 dollars,ONE TIME Payment.

Cross Fit does offer more in regards to variations and additional intensity by use of varied weight exercises,but cross fit costs A LOT more than P90X.

Cross fit became the word for training outside of your designated sport,to keep boredom from setting in.
Eric Heiden for example Bike riding in place of speed skating training.

Now cross fit and muscle confusion has taken on a new meaning,as the way it must be done to make gains,rather than reduce boredom.

Funny the Navy SEALs are probably the most fit of the Military and they do not use or need muscle confusion,they use muscle exhaustion and adaptation to need,using the same general fitness exercises we all know ,push ups,sit ups,pull ups,running,and lifting objects like logs and rubber boats as a group.
Navy SEALS WOD tire the whole system through intense exercise and constant activity in realtion to working needs.

[Hock]

In the end, they are all just lists of exercises to be done, loaded with intensity levels.

Its all about getting and/or composing your list.

Hock

[JimH]

Here are the cross fit exercises with demo clips:
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html

The P90X materials are available on Torrent.

[Kentbob]

Yeah, but the legitimate P90x materials are only for sale, CrossFit materials are open source, you only need to pay for the equipment. 


Kent

[Hock]

And the Army takes this subject on...

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/09/military-high-intensity-training-090810w/

[JimH]

You have a hard time getting these kids today fit enough to even join the military ,no less getting them up to speed to complete the current PFT requirements,so taking it up a FEW notches to cross fit would have many dropping out rather than pushing through.

Super Fit Soldiers are a Great Dream,too bad it will never happen across the board.
The ones who are fit will always be fitter than those just making / doing minimum.

[Kentbob]

The Army's review is a joke.  In six months, if they even get around to publishing the results, it will be something along the lines of "FM 21-20 is sufficient for the soldiers' physical fitness needs.  Our findings indicate that so called 'high-intensity' programs are counterproductive to soldiers' physical readiness."  At a guess, anyway.  I have been wrong before.


Kent

[TLE]

Both workout schemes are excellent. The beauty of crossfit is the variety. It keeps working out fresh.  The idea of a prescribed sets and reps regimen bores me at this point. Also, the timed workouts give you something to shoot for.

[Hock]

TLE....after awhile are you able to grasp the Crossfit concept and make up your own work-outs?

Hock

[Kentbob]

For my own part, I would answer that yes, after a while you are able to make up your own workouts.


Kent

[TLE]

Hock- lately I have been putting my own workouts together. Like today I am going out to run 400 meters do 50 squats, run 400 meters do 50 chest to ground pushups. repeat 3 times. So that is 1.5 miles run 150 squats- 150 pushups ( My running is more like a a fast jog!) This is very similar to a x fit workout Time it and record your time
Yesterday- I did 50 dumbell snatches right arm 45 lbs, 50 kb swings- 50 dumbell snatches left arm- thats it. Again time it
These are mainly conditioning so tomorrow I will probably throw in some heavier dumbell and pullup stiff, but maybe not.
the main thing is to make sure you stick some pure strength moves in once and while also- i have a lot of prebiuos injuries so I don;t do stuff that hurts

[Hock]

Talked to two Cross fitters last weekend. One was a very, young fit guy who simply does the new list of WOD exercises listed on a webpage each day. He loves it.

The other was an Army vet, in his 40s, good shape, who has several injuries. He attended classes and could not do a percentage of the exercises do to the injuries each day. He was dissed as a pussy. He quit the classes due to this attitude.

Hock