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[BA]

  If you go to bullshido.net and go to the video section, you will find the fox news report. It is actually about one of George's students making the same claims as George.
 
 BA

[jmech]

the FOX News Chicago video is also available here:

http://www.wimp.com/knockouts/

Joe

[Wardog]

The one-touch knockout is the equivalent of the evangelist knockout. You have to want to fall down basically. I spoke to a neurologist about it and when he was done laughing he basically just shook his head and told me he did not think it was even remotely possible.  Never believed it anyway but figured since I had a medical professional in front of me I'd get his take on it. Plus if it really worked it would not be this ridiculous fringe system. Everybody would be taking it.

[gumbey]

It's not just Ryukyu Kempo master George Dillman but also a Russian martial arts master (not to knock the Russian system) named Mikhail Ryabko. He calls it "psychic energy". No matter what style, there is always someone selling or promoting their so called feats of power.

[misshinryu]

Not in Dillmans stuff but Tang soo do. Dillman went around explaining kata's and their true application.

This true application of kata stuff gets amussing. It is for folks that do not want to train hard in "block em and klock em" karate. They are always looking for "secrets". The only secret to good kata is train hard, hit em hard.
My sensei speaks of the human body as one preassure point. Hit em hard enough and down they go.

[aus-man]

3 weeks ago a couple of arseholes were caught trying to break into my car, i explained the idea of a one touch knockout to one of them by giving him a big lunging left hook to the jaw. 100 kg of me and a nice left hook flying at him was all it needed

[bob77]

its this sort of thing that gives karate and pressure points a bad name. to the doubters out there pressure points exist. there is nothing mystical about it, they are just weak parts of the body. for example, the solar plexus, the throat, arteries and veins. they can cause pain, certain ones can cause a knockout and some can cause death. the thing is that you all use pressure points every time you train. the whole touch thing doesnt work its full power and correct technique. every time you aim for the groin, eyes, neck thats what pressure points are. there are other less well known ones but its just a weak point that you hit or press or pull to cause pain or injury. this and the whole mysteries in kata are the same problem. the problem doesnt lie with pressure point or katas, it lies in bad instructors like the one on the video. katas do have different applications from the performance but that is for a few good reasons and none of them has anything at all to do with secrets, mysteries or mumbo jumbo. firstly katas are excercises. the fulfill a number of roles such as fitness, muscle memory and correct technique. when you see someone doing a gedan barai with 2 hands that is for excercise and to get the body moving the right way. the fighting side of kata comes a bit later, the reason that katas are not set out "as is" is because a katas application has to work. what works for me wont necessarily work for you and what works for you will almost certainly not work for me (i am quite small built). katas are interpreted how they work for you, not for your instructor or some japanese guy you've never met. its just that a very large proportion of karate instructors nowadays think that the old ways are best. karate was made to evolve.

sorry for going on a bit but i see in forums a lot of people finding problems in karate that dont exist. the main problem in karate is the instructors, not the system itself.

[ryukyubob]

The Dillman controversy goes back a long time close to 20 years now. Dillman showed up at a summer camp conducted by Seiya Oyata (around 1985, I had the displeasure to watch the whole circus) with several of his students and spent a lot of time filming Oyata demonstrating Ryukyu Kempo entries and use of pressure points to get takedowns. The Oyata style looks very much like Hock's approach, kicks to the low line, hammer fists to the jaw, the lockups after softening them up. The pressure points were shown as a nice if you can get it kind of thing, not the entire focus. Soon after this Dillman began making a splash in Black Belt and other places with the sensationalist approach. He and Oyata soon parted ways. "True" Ryukyu Kempo (if such a thing exists) places a lot of emphasis on full contact sparring, and the Oyata System uses combat scenerios for training from a stance similar to Hock's neutral cop stance. For a slice of Ryukyu Kempo from the Shigeri Nakamuri/Seiya Oyata linage (I don't think you will see a lot of pressure point stuff) see Al Geraldi's and Jim Louge's websites. Abert was a green beret who spent a number of years as a NYC Transit cop and used to conduct some interesting seminars on using handcuff's on pressure points to get the suspects arm into a cuffable position. These guys spent 20 plus years in the system, not a weekend in Kansas.

http://www.ryukyukempogeraldi.org/

http://www.kushu.com/

[tcm_jedi]

all I can say on the subject is that there must be some validity to Dillman, if both Waly Jay AND Remy Presas not only traveled with him for over a decade, but formed an alliance with each other AND incorporated the principles of each others systems into their own

Just my two cents...

[tcm_jedi]

oh and a side note, that guy on the FOX newscast never was a Dillman affiliate, he merely managed to go to a Dillman seminar and then claim he was trained by George Dillman, which is not an uncommon thing in todays martial arts, that is to attend a seminar, and claim training by a particular individual

[Trainer]

i dont need that, now that I have found the most deadly training there is http://www.topsecrettraining.com/combat.html

I hereby challenge everyone on this forum to a fight, and because im a nice guy, you can all attack me at once

[juszczec]

That Dillman continues to get talked about is amazing and something that can only happen in the MA world.

Imagine if your plumber made the same claims - "I can fix your toilet by tapping it on the side"

Either you'd laugh at him and throw him out or let him try, then laugh at him and throw him out.

You wouldn't suspend common sense.  You sure wouldn't give him piles of money to show you how to do it.  Especially if you had a bunch of other plumbers and folks who design toilets explain why its impossible.

You sure as hell wouldn't stake your life on it.

Pressure points exist.  Most folks had them figured out by the time they were 10.  Dillman capitalizes on the American desire to want results with little to no effort. 

He's a distraction and makes people think there IS a magic bullet.  Takes time away from the honest work that will get results.

Mark

[grlaun]

Aus-man got right!

[cgonzales]

i got knoked out once by a 5 ft. 100 lbs. cheerleader for ft. stockton high once. brock my nose and everything. funny story.  by the way im 6 ft. 1 and 220 and pretty funny looking.

[usks1]

i got knoked out once by a 5 ft. 100 lbs. cheerleader for ft. stockton high once. brock my nose and everything. funny story.  by the way im 6 ft. 1 and 220 and pretty funny looking.

Now tell us how big the door she slammed in your face was....